<p style="text-align: right;"><em><span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Ghalta, Primal Hunger|fdn|335" href="#" target="_blank">Ghalta, Primal Hunger</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> | Art by <a href="https://www.artstation.com/justingerardillustration" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Justin Gerard</a></em></p>
<p>I've always been baffled by this conversation of whether a player should run more removal or not.</p>
<p>I'm not baffled because I think the answer is easy, but quite the opposite. The answer isn't obvious, yet anyone who tells you to run more removal, irritatingly, might think so.</p>
<h2>Considering Commander</h2>
<p>First of all, I'm speaking about Commander. I'm not privy to the inner technical meta of other formats. Every different format has it's own meta. Additionally, for each competitive format there's a formulated meta that dictates these choices a lot better than Commander. Most people aren't playing the same six or so decks with similar configurations in Commander, making the decision a little more concrete in competitive formats.</p>
<p>Commander - cEDH aside - isn't a competitive format, so naturally the meta is somewhat nonexistent.</p>
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<p>Second of all, Commander is a singleton format that has 60+ unique cards and 40, give or take five, lands. The perfect configuration of any deck isn't obvious. Being able to have four-ofs and a deck with 35+ playable cards and 25, give or take two, lands, changes things.</p>
<p>You get consistency. You don't have to worry about not drawing removal. It will naturally come up more often. You can also run the perfect removal over and over. You don't have to be creative about four different types of removal that work just efficiently.</p>
<p>Third, play pattern and intention of the player play a role in the answer of more removal or not. Certain strategies aren't comfortable or natural for certain players. Lines might pass them by.</p>
<p>Also, like I've said over and over in my articles, like <a href="https://edhrec.com/articles/is-winning-the-most-important-thing-in-commander" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>, players are motivated by different things in a game of Commander. As a casual format, the goal isn't always winning the most efficiently. They might be motivated about building a fun deck that "does the thing." Maybe they aren't concerned with stopping other players' game plans.</p>
<h2>Winning</h2>
<p>I make those points just to outline this: Motivation might be different from player to player, and some of these factors we have to consider in this next section.</p>
<p>Some of you are thinking, "But I want to win. If I want to win, I just need to run more removal." And again, it's not that simple. If running more removal isn't the answer, then what is? What is the alternative?</p>
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<p>Have you tried being the threat instead? I know this is loaded; there's a million things I could mean here. I'm suggesting that player removal might be better. Winning the game before someone could stop you might be a equally valid and potentially - depending on the commander - a more valid strategy.</p>
<p>Let's think about this for a second. Some colors in <em>Magic</em> are good or bad at removal. Instead of playing bad removal, you can resort to out-valuing and pressuring players out of the game. I'll give you an example.</p>
<h3>Power Matters</h3>
<p>My partner runs a very oppressive, and consistent, Bracket 4 <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Ghalta, Primal Hunger" href="#" target="_blank">Ghalta, Primal Hunger</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> deck. It loves to draw a ton of cards in green with things like <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Garruk&#039;s Uprising" href="#" target="_blank">Garruk&#039;s Uprising</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Guardian Project" href="#" target="_blank">Guardian Project</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Tribute to the World Tree" href="#" target="_blank">Tribute to the World Tree</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, and <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Elemental Bond" href="#" target="_blank">Elemental Bond</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. He runs creatures that have a high power-to-mana ratio, to guarantee all of those cards trigger.</p>
<p>Why is he drawing all these cards? So he can cast <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Ghalta, Primal Hunger" href="#" target="_blank">Ghalta, Primal Hunger</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> for two green pips and then play <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Last March of the Ents" href="#" target="_blank">Last March of the Ents</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. He wants to put all these creatures in play for cheap.</p>
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<p>He's running three pieces of removal, which in the grand scheme is nothing. He runs <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Kogla, the Titan Ape" href="#" target="_blank">Kogla, the Titan Ape</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> for creature removal, <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Beast Within" href="#" target="_blank">Beast Within</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> for versatile removal, and <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Cankerbloom" href="#" target="_blank">Cankerbloom</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> because it removes enchantment and artifact and has more power in its stats than a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Reclamation Sage" href="#" target="_blank">Reclamation Sage</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>.</p>
<p>Ghalta very rarely needs to run removal. She's usually on her way to killing a player by turn six. Ghalta pushes through most removal by being resilient. My partner ramps a ton as well, as green is known to do. If someone board wipes him, he simply draws more cards and starts again, dropping a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant" href="#" target="_blank">Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>.</p>
<p>Removal not only doesn't work on him, it barely does much more than slow him down. He doesn't use removal himself because in his color identity there isn't very much, and there's another more viable strategy: He outvalues. Becoming the threat consistently until he wins is the goal. And trust me, it works against my control-ly and stax-y <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Zimone, Mystery Unraveler" href="#" target="_blank">Zimone, Mystery Unraveler</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> deck.</p>
<p>There are many decks, with many combination of cards, that would be better off being the threat than using removal. So, is it really that easy to say run more removal? Aren't we trying to play any fun deck we want. If we've eliminated decks we could play because of their removal ability then we're teetering on cEDH.</p>
<p>Meta and competitiveness isn't the spirit of casual Commander, from what I've seen from the community.</p>
<h3>Removal Matters</h3>
<p>I say this, but I started this article saying that the answer to this question isn't simple. Being the problem isn't necessarily possible for decks that are less aggro. Combo decks and midrange decks might not be able to remove a player before disruption happens.</p>
<p>I have an oppressive, consistent, Bracket 4 <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Tivit, Seller of Secrets" href="#" target="_blank">Tivit, Seller of Secrets</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> deck. It's a Blink deck that loves to draw a ton of cards in Esper with things like Tivit himself, <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Mulldrifter" href="#" target="_blank">Mulldrifter</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, or <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Thought Monitor" href="#" target="_blank">Thought Monitor</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. I run cards that blink Tivit, like <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Ephemerate" href="#" target="_blank">Ephemerate</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, allowing for more draw and more mana in the form of Clues and Treasures.</p>
<p>I draw all these cards to gain removal in the form of counterspells like <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="An Offer You Can&#039;t Refuse" href="#" target="_blank">An Offer You Can&#039;t Refuse</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> and <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Permission Denied" href="#" target="_blank">Permission Denied</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, and board wipes like <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Toxic Deluge" href="#" target="_blank">Toxic Deluge</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> or <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="The Eternal Wanderer" href="#" target="_blank">The Eternal Wanderer</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>.</p>
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<p>I can't reasonably win early. I need Tivit. Turn five is the earliest I can cast him and get value enough to blink him again. It's slow going, so removal is essential. Low cost board wipes like <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Toxic Deluge" href="#" target="_blank">Toxic Deluge</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> are huge. <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Venser, Shaper Savant" href="#" target="_blank">Venser, Shaper Savant</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>-ing a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Last March of the Ents" href="#" target="_blank">Last March of the Ents</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> might be what saves me from losing the game.</p>
<p>Removal in the form of counter magic is huge here in prolonging the game long enough for me to get value. Tivit has ward <span class="mana-container-container"><span class="mana-container"><i class="ms ms-cost ms-3" style="margin-left: inherit !important;"></i></span></span> which makes removing him once he's out a huge blowout for most players. He tends to stick around, through removal.</p>
<p>Once I've stopped other players from winning long enough to play Tivit and get infinite value with blinks, then I can go about eliminating players. There are many decks, with many combination of cards, that would do better to use removal than be the threat. So isn't it just easy to keep saying "Be the threat"?</p>
<h2>So Which Is It?</h2>
<p>I've been ruminating on this. Ultimately, decks like my partner's Ghalta aren't that common, where very little removal is needed consistently. Even then, my partner's deck runs <em>some</em> removal. So some removal is good. Sometimes you need a way to be resilient and remove pieces that out-value you.</p>
<p>I don't think that's hard to say here, but the "more" in the phrase, "run more removal" is the tricky part.</p>
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<p>I hate to say it, the answer is always that you need to check with your pod. Should you be running more removal? Depends on how miserable you want the games to be. If everyone plays a board wipe in a game of Commander, the games would last forever and would be unfun. Targeted removal might not eliminate enough pieces to be relevant, but timing it carefully might stop a combo or midrange player from accelerating to where they're the threat.</p>
<p>Some players might hate to have three of their pieces removed in a game. Maybe there's a middle ground here with the play group on each of these points.</p>
<p>If you don't care if your pod has a fun experience - the question is if it's the most efficient strategy - I'm still not sure. I don't know if removal is the best answer for any deck, but it might be relevant to some degree in most decks. More is the tough bit. Maybe you need more pieces that accelerate your game plan than removal, making you more of a threat.</p>
<p>Maybe the answer is instead of more removal we should tell players to focus more on their game plan happening.</p>
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<p>At the very least, if we focus on our game plan, we get closer to winning. Removal just stops others, and maybe not for long. Focusing on winning might lead you to winning more often.</p>
<p>I thought of this a lot after reading Kristen's article titled "<a href="https://blog.cardkingdom.com/commander-games-feel-fast-these-days-and-heres-why/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Commander Games Feel Fast These Days… And Here’s Why</a>." I feel like players are moving in this direction because it's more fun. Games are more enjoyable when everyone gets to do something crazy, which is hard with constant removal.</p>
<p>I'd love someone to post a statistic on how often a player with more removal in their deck wins against decks that don't run them, or, on the other hand, how many Aggro decks can win against three decks that have tons of removal.</p>
<p>As usual, I don't have a concrete answer here, but I don't want people flippantly telling you to run more removal when you lose. It's not always the answer. Maybe I'm wrong. Let me know: I'm <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/strixhavendropout.bsky.social" target="_blank" rel="noopener">@Strixhavendropout on Blue Sky</a>.</p>
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Should You Run More Removal in Commander?

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<h2>SUBMISSION</h2>
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<p><em>Hello Mike,</em></p>
<p><em>Something that happened in a recent FNM Commander game left me reeling, yet I still left the game unsure whether I was the one at fault. I was playing my casual <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Kurbis, Harvest Celebrant" href="#" target="_blank">Kurbis, Harvest Celebrant</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> +1/+1 counters deck, and I was up against a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Damia, Sage of Stone" href="#" target="_blank">Damia, Sage of Stone</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Infinite Guideline Station" href="#" target="_blank">Infinite Guideline Station</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, and <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Vivi Ornitier" href="#" target="_blank">Vivi Ornitier</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. I was initially cautious about the Vivi deck since I knew it can easily go infinite out of nowhere, but luckily the Vivi player only had a few <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Island" href="#" target="_blank">Island</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>s and a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Sol Ring" href="#" target="_blank">Sol Ring</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. </em></p>
<p><em>At this point it's around turn five and nobody has really done much yet, but the Vivi player now has eight cards in hand and starts looking at my creatures on board. I currently have a few small creatures but most notably a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Rishkar, Peema Renegade" href="#" target="_blank">Rishkar, Peema Renegade</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> that I'm heavily relying on for mana, and I warn the Vivi player that I will retaliate if they remove any of my creatures. It's also worth mentioning that I deliberately avoided attacking the Vivi player up to this point because they had missed land drops and currently had no access to red mana.</em></p>
<p><em>The Vivi player, undeterred, cast a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Reality Shift" href="#" target="_blank">Reality Shift</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> on my Rishkar, stating that they didn't want to discard down to hand size. I admit that the Rishkar was probably the best target at that moment, as the only other player with creatures was the Damia player's <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Dark Confidant" href="#" target="_blank">Dark Confidant</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, but I let the Vivi player know that I was going to start attacking them because of this. The Vivi player took my comment as a personal attack and automatically countered the <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Case of the Trampled Garden" href="#" target="_blank">Case of the Trampled Garden</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> I tried to cast on my next turn, with their justification being that I was going to use it to buff the creatures that I was going to attack them with.</em></p>
<p><em>So at this point, the Vivi player has removed two of my important cards despite the fact that I haven't actually done anything to them other than threaten to retaliate, and I am incredibly upset by this. I cast my ironically-named <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Over the Edge" href="#" target="_blank">Over the Edge</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> to destroy their <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Sol Ring" href="#" target="_blank">Sol Ring</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> and proceed to attack them with all of my creatures for the next several turns, reminding them that they brought this on themselves. </em></p>
<p><em>While we are both arguing over this, the <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Infinite Guideline Station" href="#" target="_blank">Infinite Guideline Station</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> player quietly casts a <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Mirari&#039;s Wake" href="#" target="_blank">Mirari&#039;s Wake</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, something both of us could've easily removed if we hadn't spitefully wasted all of our interaction on each other. Neither of us ever found another land, and we lost a few turns later to Spacecraft shenanigans directly brought about by the <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Mirari&#039;s Wake" href="#" target="_blank">Mirari&#039;s Wake</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. The next game we play the exact same decks and the Vivi player wins on turn five with a groan-inducing <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Quicksilver Elemental" href="#" target="_blank">Quicksilver Elemental</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, yet they are still angry at me for my threats and retaliation during the last game.</em></p>
<p><em>That brings me to my current dilemma. <strong>Am I the Bolas for making threats and retaliating against unprovoked interaction? Should I have just sat there quietly and let it all slide? Or should I have just not mentioned any of my planned retaliation until after the fact?</strong></em></p>
<p><em>Sincerely,</em><br />
<em>Provoked Bear</em></p>
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<h2>VERDICT</h2>
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<p>I don't think this is Bolas energy, especially since it was mutual. If I were the Guideline or Damia players, I'd be pretty stoked, actually. You're telling me a ticking time bomb is being kept in check by the stompy deck and the stompy deck's being controlled by the bomb? And I just get to hang out and put together my own little machine? I'll stay quiet and use this to my advantage!</p>
<p>The most important point of all is this: I hope this heat didn't ruin the vibe of the hang. Something like this can definitely put a strain on the social dynamics and I really hope you lot were able to keep things light enough to enjoy yourselves.</p>
<p>Vivi is a scary-as-hell legend to see in the command zone. That turn-five win off the <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Quicksilver Elemental" href="#" target="_blank">Quicksilver Elemental</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> absolutely illustrates why. Them looking at your creatures to not have to discard to hand size is fair enough, but it's almost like they forgot they're playing a Vivi deck. You want all the heat off of you until you can pop off. That <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Reality Shift" href="#" target="_blank">Reality Shift</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> didn't have to be something you discard and I'm sure there are a few cards in that hand that wouldn't be the worst to let fall to the graveyard.</p>
<p>Imagine a card in the Vivi player's hand having an extra line of text that reads "Discard this card: target Kurbis player cannot attack you for a turn." Not to mention, you could still play the <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Reality Shift" href="#" target="_blank">Reality Shift</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> later if you discard that eight-drop that's not likely to hit the stack anytime soon. Open up the conversation! It's time for politics!</p>
<p>You went hardline with it. "I was not attacking you because you haven't been up to much, but if you hurt me, I will undo my kindness and good will toward you." Not a quote but that's the subtext, right? Vivi has the choice to declare war or to use this information to their advantage and they chose war. Rishkar is most definitely the correct target of all available targets on the board and letting you get out of hand might be tougher to deal with in the later game, but as you saw the next game, I'm not sure anybody else should be as feared as <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Vivi Ornitier" href="#" target="_blank">Vivi Ornitier</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>.</p>
<p>I think you could have kept it quiet and just started attacking the Vivi player. It would have avoided the whole spot removal war you guys had going on. It could have ended there; you take your lumps and move forward. That said, I want to discuss threatening a player with certain actions in <em>Magic</em>.</p>
<p>If you're going to be making a threat, you have to be ready for what can come and also recognize that you still need to find ways to budget your gameplay to keep others in check as well as advancing your own plan. When you make a threat at the table, you're changing the difficulty setting of your own game. You're broadcasting your plans, and you're also informing all opponents what's most important to you in the moment.</p>
<p>If you're okay with this, you can do your thing, but keep in mind the following rules I hold for myself when making any threats in game:</p>
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<li>Be fun and light. It's still a game, make sure that you get your message across but don't ruin anybody's night.</li>
<li>Convey specifically the events that will provoke your retaliation and set a limit for yourself on what this retaliation looks like.</li>
<li>Be ready to pivot if something else presents itself as a bigger problem.</li>
<li>Keep all of it to one game. No carrying things over.</li>
<li>Follow through. Diluting your word isn't going to help you overall. It's also a matter of making sure you take your own threats seriously. Consider the action you're threatening more carefully and therefore make fewer threats overall.</li>
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<p>You follow these rules and you'll find yourself making fewer threats, but you'll have a better time with it when you actually do.</p>
<p>Here's an example for me. I have my <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="The Ninth Doctor" href="#" target="_blank">The Ninth Doctor</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>/<span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Clara Oswald" href="#" target="_blank">Clara Oswald</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> Grixis Upkeeps deck that I really love. It's a slow deck that aims to survive a go-round the table and stack five-plus times worth of upkeep triggers from a board filled with crazy enchantments. Easily disruptable, but it's also a deck people like to see go off so I get left alone quite a bit.</p>
<p>It's also pretty all-in on the strategy. It needs a lot of grace to work. It's the only deck I run land destruction in and stax pieces like <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Rising Waters" href="#" target="_blank">Rising Waters</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> - I really need to slow things down to survive.</p>
<p>One time, my friend Chris (hi, buddy, love you!) wanted to destroy my <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Court of Vantress" href="#" target="_blank">Court of Vantress</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> which had not had a chance to turn into anything. There weren't many targets available to Court on the board anyway and I had had a pretty rough start. Chris thought the Court could go off pretty well if things just started to suddenly work out for me. I told him that if he destroyed the one non-commander, nonland permanent I had managed to stick into play that I would vow to wreck his board in retaliation.</p>
<p>He destroyed the Court and I said, "Alright, boys, no need to worry about me; I'm Chris' problem now." Then I made good on my promise when I played <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Recantation" href="#" target="_blank">Recantation</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> later in the game and popped it to return most of his board to hand. However, Max (hi, buddy, love you!) had become quite the problem with his Angel deck and Chris and I were able to call a truce before I used <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Recantation" href="#" target="_blank">Recantation</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. I used my <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Vile Requiem" href="#" target="_blank">Vile Requiem</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> to kill some Angels, making a deal with Chris that when Max is more subdued, I'd come back to him.</p>
<p>We had a laugh, made the deal, and I stuck to point five in my rules. We all then lost to Eric (hi, buddy, love you!) whose <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Zirda, the Dawnwaker" href="#" target="_blank">Zirda, the Dawnwaker</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> deck was the real threat the whole time. We shuffled up and played another, Chris and I no longer enemies.</p>
<p>In the story, I'll admit I make a case for Chris killing the <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Court of Vantress" href="#" target="_blank">Court of Vantress</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. I eventually got to land a few things that controlled the table and stocked up some upkeep verse counters. Notice how the rules I gave myself allowed me to keep the vibe light and still have fun without feeling like I needed to be all-in on killing Chris. By specifying your threat, you allow yourself the grace needed to pivot and still be in control of your <em>own</em> game.</p>
<p>All told, this could have been "Removal happens. That's <em>Magic</em>, baby!" but that's not what people come to this column for. While yes, you have to be okay with your stuff getting removed, you can also use many different tools in your kit to advance your game and sometimes that means threatening an opponent with spot removal. This could either goad an opponent or deter them, but it's the kind of swing you can take that can sometimes make things more interesting or go exactly your way.</p>
<p>I do believe there should have been more threat assessment of the board rather than racking up points in the spot removal war happening, but sometimes our humanity takes over. Being met with a barrier or a hurdle can be frustrating and sometimes your reaction is a little more extreme than you'd like it.</p>
<p>Take stock of yourself in your games; get your hands on the reins and give yourself a pull when you're too heated. Ask yourself if the threat you're making is worth it to you. Nine times out of ten, it's more advantageous to let it go and move forward. Keep it to yourself and start attacking. But that one time out of ten, you'll be able to show your opponents that you're not one to mess with while still being one they love playing with.</p>
<p>No Bolases. Thank you for giving me an excuse to write about making retaliatory threats in Commander!</p>
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Am I The Bolas? - Promise of Retaliation

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<p>Hello, and welcome to <em>Am I the Bolas</em>? This column is for all of you out there who have ever played some <em>Magic </em>and wondered if you were the bad guy. I'm here to take in your story with all of its nuances so I can bring some clarity to all those asking, "Am I the Bolas?"</p>
<p>I'm ready to hear you out and offer advice. All you have to do is email amithebolas@gmail.com with your story, a pseudonym you want to use, and of course, only include details you don't mind in the column! You might see your story below one day. You might even hear it on the podcast. Which podcast?</p>
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<p>I'm Mike Carrozza - dear lord, what is that <em>smell!?</em></p>
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<p><em>"Two for one special!"</em></p>
<p>This week, spell it out.</p>
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<p><em>Hey Mike,</em></p>
<div dir="auto"><em>There was an incident at a Commander game last year, at my school’s Magic club, that has been nagging me, and once I heard about this column I decided you should hear it. I was playing <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Roxanne, Starfall Savant" href="#" target="_blank">Roxanne, Starfall Savant</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>. The other people at the table were playing <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Kaalia of the Vast" href="#" target="_blank">Kaalia of the Vast</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder" href="#" target="_blank">Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, and <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Kenrith, the Returned King" href="#" target="_blank">Kenrith, the Returned King</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>.</em></div>
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<div dir="auto"><em>Kaalia and Yidris were my friends, and Kenrith was the teacher supervisor. On turn two, I dropped <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Generous Plunderer" href="#" target="_blank">Generous Plunderer</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, a card that gives myself and target opponent a Treasure on my upkeep. When it got back around to me, I noticed that Kaalia was complaining about being stuck on white, so I gave them a Treasure. For every upkeep from then until turn seven, I gave Kaalia a Treasure. With my help, they were able to steamroll the rest of the table into single digits, without attacking me. They said they were not attacking me because of the Treasures. I will note I made no promises, did not make any deals, only kept feeding Kaalia the Treasures. They never did draw a white source. </em></div>
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<div dir="auto"><em>On turn seven, I gave them the last Treasure. With my ramping, I windmill slammed <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Fiery Emancipation" href="#" target="_blank">Fiery Emancipation</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span> and <span class="edhrecp__link"><a class="edhrecp__link-a" content="Earthshaker Giant" href="#" target="_blank">Earthshaker Giant</a><span class="edhrecp__link-image"></span></span>, and went to combat. I had enough power to kill either Kaalia, or Kenrith and Yidris. I went for the jugular, one-shotting the Kaalia deck. I was quickly eliminated by the rest of the table, and the game ended soon after that. Now comes the problem. The Kaalia player started arguing with me about that combat. They thought because the Treasures kept coming their way, there was a deal going on. I insisted that no deal had been made and I was well within my right. After the game was over, Kaalia moved to another pod to watch their game and tell the other four players that I had broken our deal. We began to argue again. <strong>I ask you: was there an unofficial deal going on, or was I breaking an unwritten rule? Am I the Bolas?</strong></em></div>
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<div dir="auto"><em>Sincerely,</em></div>
<div dir="auto"><em>Green Ramp Enjoyer</em></div>
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<h2>VERDICT</h2>
<p>Thank you for writing and asking me to weigh in on your story. As I mention every week, if folks don't write to me, there's no column, so if you, the reader, want to send me a story, whether it's your own or one from Reddit or a friend's, please send it to amithebolas@gmail.com and I'll get to it here.</p>
<p>Alright, GRE, let's get into. Also, I'm just going to call you Greg because it looks so silly to just see GRE without the G at the end. I hope you don't mind.</p>
<p>This is one of those submissions where I can already see the comments under it going long and argumentative. Depending on the day, I'd call this angle shooting or totally valid. Today, I'm going with angle shooting. I looked for a definition of angle shooting and this one makes the most sense:</p>
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<p>I believe this situation qualifies particularly because of this line: "<em>They said they were not attacking me because of the Treasures."</em></p>
<p>There's an explicit direction from the Kaalia player saying "GREG, I am only doing this because of the Treasures" and then you keep giving them Treasures which to many would seem like a tacit or implied agreement to the terms. If this wasn't the case, then a clarification would be in order. "That's great, but we never really made that deal," would be fine. Then the Kaalia player would be able to threaten you with violence and you would then be in a position to explicitly take the deal or suffer the consequences.</p>
<p>Either way, speaking up at that moment to clarify would have been welcome, I'm certain.</p>
<p>That said, it's true, there was no "real" deal. There was no handshake. There was no explicit agreement. I think the Kaalia player could have phrased their intention a little more clearly in a way that would invite an affirmative or negative response, definitely. However, if the rest of the table could ostensibly articulate to their friends in telling this story later that "GREG kept giving Kaalia Treasures, so Kaalia never attacked GREG," I think this deal/not-a-deal was understood.</p>
<p>In the spirit of <em>Magic</em>, especially in Commander, the idea of "lying by omission" is a grey area that people venture into a couple of times until they realize that lots of players don't tend to be repeat podmates after that. It's almost like the super complicated game that we play - which considers nearly all the cards printed in the last 30+ years and is usually played with two extra opponents, therefore adding a difficult-to-navigate social element to it - has carved out some bits of etiquette that remain <em>technically unspoken. </em></p>
<p>Acts of deception are generally pretty frowned upon. While not speaking up and letting the Kaalia player attack your opponents isn't really the problem, it's letting the Kaalia player believe that this arrangement was in place by not speaking up when they explicitly laid out their reasons for not attacking you that qualifies as a potential toe-dip into deception. Because you exploited this to go in for the kill on Kaalia while they had brought the rest of the table down to less than ten life, this is angle shooting.</p>
<p>I will say that, while I can appreciate a little bit of venting, going over to another table of friends to tell them you've done *gasp* the unthinkable wasn't entirely called for. I think the discussion should have remained between both of you and should serve as a lesson for both you and the Kaalia player.</p>
<p>Sidenote: If you're going to take out a player who had been an ally to you in the game, make sure you have a plan to handle the crackback of the other opponents who want their revenge!</p>
<p>Bolas.</p>
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