Superior Numbers - Flash in Fashion?

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Dana Roach
Dana Roach
Superior Numbers - Flash in Fashion?

He's for every one of us! Stand for every one of us!

Welcome to Superior Numbers, where I conduct numerical analysis on cards and deckbuilding trends using just a little bit of math and a little bit less snark.

Contrary to conventional wisdom, FlashFlash may well not be the savior of the universe, nor will he save everyone of us, and he's most definitely not a miracle. In fact, by a lot of accounts, it's quite the opposite. Now, I'm not going to get into the problems the card presents in cEDH when coupled with Protean HulkProtean Hulk and Thassa's OracleThassa's Oracle. For starters, that's not what I really do here at EDHREC, but more importantly, I'm not remotely qualified to talk about it. The cEDH players who are qualified, however, have repeatedly said it is an issue, and how utterly that line of play dominates their particular power strata, and I'm inclined to believe them.

Flash

So what can we look at regarding FlashFlash? Well, one of the arguments made in favor of the card's banning is that such a move would really only effect cEDH while barely making an impact on Commander. The best way to see if that's true seems to be to determine just how much it gets played in decks that are not cEDH lists. Let's start with the numbers for FlashFlash overall: 2,582 decks on EDHREC are running the card, which is 2% of the 155,657 decks legally capable of having it in their 99.

Is that a lot? A little? As Joey Tiberius Donatello Ulysses Schultz always says, let's give those numbers a little bit of context. The best way to do that is to look at what other cards clock in with lower numbers and therefore see less play than FlashFlash:

These aren't perfect apples-to-apples comparisons after all. BerserkBerserk and Wound ReflectionWound Reflection are both $15+ cards, all the planeswalkers are relatively new cards, Armadillo CloakArmadillo Cloak has a near-exact reprint in Unflinching CourageUnflinching Courage and is multicolored, etc. Still, I think it's useful to see what company Flash keeps in terms of representation.


King of the impossible!

Kenrith, the Returned King
Najeela, the Blade Blossom
Prime Speaker Vannifar

So that gives us a rough idea of how much play FlashFlash sees overall. Now let's look at where it sees play. There're two specific ways we can break this down: by the total amount of decks running it, and by the percentage of decks running it. Neither is exactly what we want, so let's look at the top five entries for both. These will be sequenced by the third column:

 

Top commanders by raw inclusion:

CommanderPercent running FlashFlashTotal decks
Tymna the WeaverTymna the Weaver & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero49.64% of 826410
Kenrith, the Returned KingKenrith, the Returned King12.53% of 1452182
Tasigur, the Golden FangTasigur, the Golden Fang8.74% of 1854162
Prime Speaker VannifarPrime Speaker Vannifar23.48% of 575135
Najeela, the Blade-BlossomNajeela, the Blade-Blossom7.21% of 1789129

 

Top commanders by percent inclusion:

CommanderTotal decksPercent running FlashFlash
Tymna the WeaverTymna the Weaver & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero41049.64% of 826
Rayami, First of the FallenRayami, First of the Fallen7835.29% of 221
Tana, the BloodsowerTana, the Bloodsower & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero526.32% of 19
Prime Speaker VannifarPrime Speaker Vannifar13523.48% of 575
Silas Renn, Seeker AdeptSilas Renn, Seeker Adept & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero1120.00% of 55

Every man, every woman, every child, it's the mighty Flash!

Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Rayami, First of the Fallen
Silas Renn, Seeker Adept

Since none of those breakdowns are really ideal I'm just going to smush (that's a technical term) them together moving forward and look at the eight decks represented by the commanders above.

Okay, so now that we've got eight to look at, why don't we check and see what percentage of those decks running FlashFlash are also running Protean HulkProtean Hulk?

 

Amount of top FlashFlash commanders also using Protean HulkProtean Hulk

CommanderWith FlashFlashWith bothDifference
Tymna the WeaverTymna the Weaver & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero41040999.76
Rayami, First of the FallenRayami, First of the Fallen781114.10
Tana, the BloodsowerTana, the Bloodsower & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero55100%
Prime Speaker VannifarPrime Speaker Vannifar13513096.30
Silas Renn, Seeker AdeptSilas Renn, Seeker Adept & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero1111100%
Najeela, the Blade-BlossomNajeela, the Blade-Blossom18217797.25
Tasigur, the Golden FangTasigur, the Golden Fang16216098.77
Kenrith, the Returned KingKenrith, the Returned King12912798.45

 

Now that's interesting. Rayami, First of the FallenRayami, First of the Fallen is the only card running FlashFlash that isn't running Protean HulkProtean Hulk in a percentage below 96%. And it's not just a little below - it's 82% points below. That's a massive difference. There's some logic there, as FlashFlash in a Rayami deck serves the purpose to put cards in the yard to power up your commander. Beyond that though, Rayami is the only commander on the list that doesn't show up in the Lab Maniacs cEDH tier list as ranked Competitive, Maximum Power or Overpowered, aside from Silas Renn, Seeker AdeptSilas Renn, Seeker Adept, a card that prior to the banning of Paradox EngineParadox Engine was (as far as I can tell) part of an Engine combo deck. So does this mean that of the eight decks we're looking at, all but one are entirely cEDH lists?

There's no way to be sure. After all, it's possible to run FlashFlash and Protean HulkProtean Hulk together and not do anything degenerate. Not only that, even if one is doing something powerful or game-ending with Flash/Hulk, it doesn't necessarily mean the deck is a cEDH deck. The solution, then, seems to be to find out how many of those decks running FlashFlash and Protean HulkProtean Hulk are running other cEDH cards that generally show up less outside cEDH as a marker.

I used this Oracle core list for cards to check. Why am I not checking how many are running Thassa's OracleThassa's Oracle? Well, I did, and only 105 of the Tymna the WeaverTymna the Weaver & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero decks with FlashFlash and Protean HulkProtean Hulk are running it. I think that's a little misleading, as the card is only about eight weeks old at this point, and the low numbers we're seeing could almost entirely be due to people not updating their decks online just yet. So there's the stat if you want it, but I'd like to try to figure out how many of those are cEDH decks without worrying about whether the list have been updated recently or not.

 

Tymna the WeaverTymna the Weaver & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero decks running FlashFlash:

CardDecksPercentage
Chrome MoxChrome Mox28369.02
Cephalid IllusonistCephalid Illusonist27968.05
Nomads en-KorNomads en-Kor27667.32
Force of WillForce of Will24459.51
Mana CryptMana Crypt23657.56
Mox DiamondMox Diamond21051.22
Ad NauseumAd Nauseum17342.20
Imperial SealImperial Seal15836.59
Demonic ConsultationDemonic Consultation14234.63
Gemstone CavernsGemstone Caverns13633.17

 

That's just for the Tymna the WeaverTymna the Weaver & Thrasios, Triton HeroThrasios, Triton Hero deck. The numbers are almost universally worse for any other deck on the list, and they get worse when you add more than one card to the filter.

So, what does that all mean? Well, best guess, just based on the info at hand, it means that of the decks in our database running both FlashFlash and Protean HulkProtean Hulk, about half are cEDH lists. Of course, no data is perfect. For example I've been told that cEDH players often use TappedOut.com for deckbuilding, presumably because they're players who like broken things (their joke, not mine) and that's a site not scraped by EDHREC.

Lastly, I was curious what the list of commanders that ran FlashFlash but no Protean HulkProtean Hulk looked like, just to see what decks might want FlashFlash as a piece outside casting Hulk. We saw earlier Rayami, First of the FallenRayami, First of the Fallen was a fan of the card, but where there any others?

Commanders running FlashFlash but no Protean HulkProtean Hulk:

CommanderBreakdownPercentage
Rayami, First of the FallenRayami, First of the Fallen67 of 22130.18
Ayesha TanakaAyesha Tanaka1 of 714.29
Sun Quan, Lord of WuSun Quan, Lord of Wu4 of 537.55
Ravos, Soul TenderRavos, Soul Tender & Silas Renn, Seeker AdeptSilas Renn, Seeker Adept2 of 306.66
Hakim, LoreweaverHakim, Loreweaver1 of 195.26

 

Looks like... not really? I mean, there's these, and another ten or so commanders with 2-5 percent of decks running Flash but no Hulk, but everything after that is essentially a rounding error. Mostly it's just Rayami.


Just a man with a man's courage

So what's the answer? Well, I think it's a little complicated. FlashFlash is a genuine, logical part of a Rayami, First of the FallenRayami, First of the Fallen deck... but it's not really a staple anywhere else. That's not to see it doesn't see play, but I'm not sure any deck aside from Rayami would really suffer were it gone.

That said, I'm not sure it's accurate to say it doesn't see play outside cEDH either. There's plenty of people who seem to be running it for value, and plenty who seem to be running it and Hulk outside cEDH decks, and in that context it probably isn't a warping card.

I'm genuinely curious to hear what you may think, though. Is it worth hitting the decks that run it to balance things in cEDH, or would doing so hurt too many Commander games who are otherwise using it in a way that's equal to the environment's power level? Sound off below, and as always, thanks for reading.

Dana Roach

Dana is one of the hosts of the EDHRECast and the CMDR Central podcast. He lives in Eau Claire, WI with his wife and son. He has been playing Magic so long he once traded away an Underground Sea for a Nightmare, and was so pleased with the deal he declined a trade-back the following week. He also smells like cotton candy and sunsets.

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